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| | | | | Jennie Rosenbaum said
at 12:51am on March 13th, 2008 | Some of my works have been stolen from Redbubble. I was told in an email that they had seen my work floating around online stamped with the name “Michelle Stark” and “are”. I am not sure how they knew it was stolen from redbubble but I can verify it because of the image names (one was listed as something different there and then changed – but nowhere else).
how can I track down the works? I’ve tried searching by the name and words on the works, by the title names and so forth, I’ve checked sites like polyvore and photobucket but I haven’t had to handle something like this before and help in tracking down the thief would be greatly appreciated!
the quality is terrible, which means they probably wont get too far, but I hate the idea that someone else is claiming credit for my work- what can I do to stop this? I have googled, I have searched different sites for ‘michelle stark’ ‘are’ ‘nude’ and the title names (and any combination thereof) and have come up with nada. do any of you have an idea of how I can track down the culprit and give them a stern talking to? it doesn’t look like polyvore to me (first place I checked).. I can’t afford digimarc so I need to nip this in the bud. | | | | Abstract Art By Sharon Cummings said
at 7:49am on March 13th, 2008 | Jennie as hard as this is to deal with when it first happens to you, you get used to it.
The Internet is FAR to big to POLICE. I always tell other artists that if you dont want something stolen, dont list it online.
The risk is always there all of the time and trying to "hunt" them down will only drive you crazy and leave you exhausted.
I should know, I tried to do it for over 3 years. The more I worked at the problem, the bigger it got. And some sites will pull your counterfeit work and others wont. I found some were in Chinese. What do you do with that? Hire an attorney full-time to scour the net and try to go after them? Who can afford that? And I was told by a copyright attorney that it still wouldnt stop it.
So at some point I had to let it go. I just had to. My health was suffering. I was trying to VERO sellers o eBay almost daily and on the phone with eBay. It was crazy. And most importantly, it wasnt working.
One thing BG could do to keep the copycat artists at bay would be to remove the images that show in the Feedback. What I found on eBay was that if a painting sold well, then within a week a copy of that painting would be up by another seller. Sometimes a U.S. artist. So I started marking my auctions private so that thieves couldnt just troll down my Feedback finding successful paintings to re-create.
And that is ONE OF THE BIGGEST reason I love Yessy because no one can see how well I do there. No one knows I am successful on that site. They cannot see when I made a sale, they dont know what I sold. They dont see my most popular commissions. I love that!! No copycats there.
I know this doesnt help you with your current problem, but I thought I would share my experience with all of this.
HEY BOUNDLESS!!!
How bout making our sales anonymous...keep the feedback but get rid of the picture and link?????? | | | | Jennie Rosenbaum said
at 4:13am on March 14th, 2008 | yeah, I've tried everything I can think of technologically (which is a lot) and no dice so I am going to let it go, the condition of the images is terrible. everyone (I've been discussing it a lot) thinks it is nothing to worry about so I have decided not to. everyone also says that my work is distinctive enough that it's easy to tell when somethings counterfeit and that it's a sign of success anyway. mostly I don't usually worry about issues like this but I saw red when I saw someone else's name stamped on my work! I also felt an irrational annoyance that such bad images of my work were circulating which is funny really..
my work is everywhere online, I ascribe to rather viral marketing so I haven't been shy about getting it out there so this is bound to happen.
on another note.. how can you stand yessy Sharon? I just can't put my trust in a site that looks like it was done by a 5 year old. or in the artwork on that site. (and there is some real crap there, good stuff as well, but mostly crap) I just can't see high end collectors being involved or new traffic being interested in art displayed in such a horrid context. are the sales and traffic worth it? are they high enough to justify the bad context? especially considering the prices involved? I'm curious, I just can't see how it can compare to Boundless here :D
disclaimer: I don't want to offend anyone from yessy but I used to be a web designer and producer and frequently judge a site by it's design. if the numbers are really worth it I will swallow my designer pride - I did it with myspace, I can do it with anything.
disclaimer 2: I mean every word about myspace. it offends me on a daily basis with it's tiled backgrounds and music and pink backgrounds with red text. if there was an option to turn off all the crap people do to their pages I would do it in a heartbeat. urg. and it is NOT disability friendly in any way. I use myspace, I acknowledge it's power but I don't have to like it.
Disclaimer 3: it's 40 degrees out (well over 100) and I am sweltering and crabby - sorry for the ramble | | | | Abstract Art By Sharon Cummings said
at 7:29am on March 14th, 2008 | I go/stay where people are buying regardless of the web design. The truth is that I still make about 75% of my income from Yessy. Ugly inefficient site that it is, people buy for my full prices. And Yessy doesnt require me to use their transaction service, so I go directly to PayPal and pay less fees than with even BG. So I stay. And a good portion of that 25% is now coming from My Space either directly or sent to BG. BG accounts for very little of my actual income (sales as a result of the site, not my bringing traffic to BG).
I wish it would change. I prefer BG overall. | | | | Jennie Rosenbaum said
at 9:32am on March 14th, 2008 | the nicest design for an online art seller went to a small company from boston who sadly didn't make enough to keep going. it's a real pity because their interface and design were outstanding. very minimalist, very high end commercial gallery. I know design doesn't equal everything but boy I wish yessy would move into this decade with their design! their search options are nice. I prefer BG though! better design and a much nicer feel. less chop shop and more gallery -thanks guys!
Most of my income comes from here :D and private sales. usually face to face.
Empty Easel has an excellent review of Yessy that mirrors a lot of my feelings for it and I do find myself ambivalent about it when all is said and done. (there also happens to be a lovely one of Boundless there..)
Sorry guys if it is a bit wrong to mention yessy and ask questions on a Boundless forum, bad etiquette I realize but it's because I just don't see how they can compete! | | | | Ettina EmcVonEakin Artettina said
at 12:44am on March 18th, 2008 | I still don't get myspace. Do you get to know people there throught the forums? I love youtube, but havn't really figured out myspace and meeting people there. Very sorry to hear about the theft, how horrible. But the better you get and the more the demand, well it's going to happen. | | | | Jennie Rosenbaum said
at 1:57am on March 18th, 2008 | thanks Ettina! I've decided to look on the positive side of it all and take it as a sign that I am starting to really gain some popularity and success! :D
I still hate myspace, I've been putting in a concerted effort all week and it is paying off but I hate it. it's a dog to use, especially with a disability. the way to go about adding friends is to search around for people.. don't use the stupid search option at the top (it's useless unless you are searching by name), but go to the search page and search under interests and so forth. I hate to admit it but it's also helping me with my client profiling and so forth. *sigh* | | |
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